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Saturday, July 18, 2009

Everyone's Entitled to Their Opinion (Really)

I enjoy Harry Potter. The books. The films.

Do I think anyone younger than 13 should read the books or see the films? No.

Why? Immaturity. Lack of parental involvement in the process of viewing them. Some of the material is quite scary (dragons, dungeons, ghosts, huge spiders, cruelty of Voldemort).

I think the "increasing darkness" many write about only refers to the many deaths of beloved characters as the books go on. There is a war going on between Voldemort's camp and the "good" camp of Harry Potter. The Witchcraft and Wizarding world is split as to how to use their magic for good or bad (in this case, Voldemort wanting to control the world). Voldemort is very dark and evil. The book does not hide this fact. Nor do the films.

The films are creating an imagery that can scare the pants off many youngin's, not to mention adults who are prone to nightmares from such things (I know a few). I would say the same for the Lord of the Rings . . . my youngest was I think four when we went to the theatre to see the first one (I wasn't familiar with LOTR's, my husband was and pushed me to go - glad he pushed me 'cos then I read the books etc., but still: it could have scared my son to death - he was too young).

I do not think it is healthy to be obsessed over the books or the films. They are entertainment and that's it.

I think why this is such a sore spot for me is that I went through the "throwing the first four books in the trash" period of my life that I'd rather forget. That period of my life I was letting other people dictate what I allowed and did not allow in my home. It won't happen again. And, regardless of how kindly people put it into words, I feel left judged (it's human nature to feel this way whether it is true or not) as a bad mother, going to hell in a hand basket, and . . . whenever I read people's reasons for not reading the books or seeing the films when their arguments against it are peppered with Scripture or links to respected sources. I feel guilty for indulging in something everyone says I should avoid.

What I do is this: I screen it and then decided whether my children get to read/see it. Simple. We can then talk about it in a constructive, non-judgemental way. I don't want to feel guilty for enjoying a really rather good set of books and watching their B-movie counterparts. It's just fiction.

And, I'll be honest: I'm not looking for high-moral ground from Hollywood. I go to so few films anyway. I felt more violated in my conscience by watching Iron Man than I ever have watching one Harry Potter film. I think the books are pretty clear in drawing the line between good and evil; they foster good friendships. And, no, honestly, I never would have noticed EVER that Dumbledore was a homosexual. I wasn't looking for it, and after I read the books again when that was made news by the author, I still couldn't see it. It still bothers me that HP never follows the rules, but manages to be the hero and never seriously repremanded because he "saved the day" . . . but in his place, I would have done the same thing: break the rules to save the day, if I felt like I might make a difference for the good of everyone. I think he was more curious than he needed to be, but I have a house full of kids that are more curious than they need to be . . . *smile* . . . and that is why I never stop engaging my kids.

I think anything that becomes an obsession is unhealthy. I have had to point out to my girl that she was walking that line when she read the series over and over and started making lists of all the spells . . . yes, I found them and threw them out. We had a very serious discussion. She put the books up (and I said I would throw out every HP thing she owned - books/films) if she did not get things under control. She put them up so she could find other books to read. She read Narnia after that, among other books.

You never stop being a parent. I watch for signs of obsessive behaviour in my children, because when one thing (other than God) is front and center in their lives, that is when it can be dangerous. I think all those people going to line up at midnight for book releasings were pretty nutty. Keeping their little ones up so late for a book they could get the next day (you know they pre-ordered). There are people who get pretty riled up over Star Trek and Star Wars, too. I get pretty fired up over coffee and chocolate. Any of those things can become unhealthy.

Yes, we'll go see the new film.

I respect every one's opinion and decision on the Harry Potter issue. I'm not writing this to change minds or opinions, but because it seems to be such a hot topic I wanted to share my opinion. I even bought Carpenter-Browns' book on HP and read it with my girl. I am not judging anyone who says NO to HP. I respect that.

In fact, I ADMIRE it. I admire parents who stick to their guns, no matter what the world tells them.

Parents are not wrong or bad for deciding for their children. That's where I leave it. And, I leave it with God. I hope I am not making Him unhappy by exposing my kids and myself to this stuff (this is where I waiver - my loyalty is to God first and I take my job as mum very seriously). bottom line and in factual truth: no one will miss a thing by never reading/seeing HP. Period. It is not important in the large picture.


**if you want a chance to win that HI pin cushion, you can comment in the comment box here, too**winner will be drawn this Friday.

15 comments:

Maurisa said...

Amen sister! Great job! I agree with your argument whole-heartedly! I refuse to let others dictate to me what is appropriate for my children. God gave them to me. I answer to God, and no one else! That's not to say that I don't ever seek the guidance or wisdom of others in making my decisions, but they are still MY decisions.

We are not HP fans and we are completely okay with that. Many of our friends are HP fans and we are completely okay with that, as well. Every family gets to draw their own line and should be able to do so without fear of being judged by others.

BTW, I loved Ironman! To each her own :-)

regan said...

to each his own.
and i think that you are right, that each parent has to discern for themselves whether they want to do the HP thing.
i will say that my main concern with the whole thing is that there was some debate as to the witchcraft/magic/spells stuff and relating it to abortions, etc. and when i read that-perahaps it was not even from a reliable resource-i felt uneasy. and i am sure you can understand after having your daughter overly interested in that aspect of it.
but then again my kids were very young when it all first came out, they've never really expressed an interest and so i kind of left it at that.
i think it is SO hard this day in age for parents to figure out how much to expose their kids to. i worry sometimes that all of the "forbidden fruit" is going to be so tempting to them later that they might go crazy. frustration about being "different" than every one else is another problem. family and friends looking at us (Catholics in particular) as so weird and against everything.
the popular culture is so bright and flasy and the wolf is more often than not wearing sheeps clothing.
personally, i know that i sometimes watch things that aren't particulary Christian. i loved iron man too. i enjoy all of the marvel heroes. spiderman, batman, etc.
i just don't know if everything can be or will be cut and dried. unless we have the Church coming out and saying yea and nay for each and every decision we make with regards to the media.
i agree that the HP films should definitely be maturely viewed, especially since the whole magic think has a darker side. and none of us would want to be guilty of failing to shield our children from something that is intrinsically evil.
i always try to imagine the intent of the author. i questioned her intent when that character "came out" of the closet. that bothered me because i thought it was unnecessary for children's literature to even go there. even though the homosexual issue is part of our "culture".
and so, since i have taken up far too much space on this very hot topic, i will sign off.
hope all is well with you.
and i'd really like to enter that pincushion give away because 1. i need a new pincushion and haven't had time to make one. and 2. it's cute. and 3. it would remind me of you every time i needed a pin.
God bless you for your honesty and for engaging us in thoughtful discussion!
:)

Anne said...

Its fiction, its entertaining, it represents the battle between good and evil. I'm a fan! No sense in overthinking everything-sometimes you just have to relax and enjoy life a bit.

Sarah - Kala said...

Maurisa - I liked Iron Man, don't get me wrong; it just had that woman sleep over in the beginning (if I remember correctly). But many films today have gratuitous stuff I'd rather blank out on. My kids are too aware of gratuitousness in society.

regan - there are questionable aspects/topics in HP w/out the author bringing in the homosexual thing. I did not think it was necessary for her clarification - her audience were children, after all. That declaration made me very uneasy, and, I asked my girl if she thought any of the characters were gay . . . to which she replied, "If so, I didn't pick up on it. Which, is good, because it would ruin the book." She also pointed out that she liked that the characters only kissed (no details) and there was never a lot of it. For her it is pure fantasy. For a time, she was a bit obsessed, so we had it out. The things that made me wonder were the meanings of words. Case in point: transfiguration. In the book, it was a person becoming another thing (like an animal); so we discussed the Catholic meaning: Christ's appearing transfigured to us as a promise to what is to come for us. Once the line isn't blurred, it is easier to compartmentalize fact from fiction. But, it takes a lot of time and energy on the parents part to stay tuned in.

Again, and I think this is the most important thing: if people choose not to read/see HP, there is nothing lost on them. Nothing at all. For our family, it has entertained only. Would it be better if it edified? Yes. I think it does in some ways, but real edification comes from the Sacraments and loving Christ first and foremost. Of course, you know that.

I wish you luck to win the pin cushion. If not . . . I may send you one anyway. You're too stinking adorable not to!!

Sarah - Kala said...

Anne, thank you. That's precisely it in so many ways. But, I wanted to touch on this to maybe reach others who just enjoy it and not want to scratch that surface of beating it down to death - obsessiveness. If you can think of a better word than obsessive, let me know. Some times, I just want to enjoy something and not nit pick it. But, this topic is a hot one for sure.

Adrienne said...

Anyone who is worried about HP should take some time to read the "old" fairy tales I grew up with. Come on - wolves possibly eating grandma is a pretty scary...

Unknown said...

Sarah-funny you write this as I just get back from seeing the new one with my hubby. I loved it, but again, it is just entertainment for me.

I do think the books and movies get darker as the characters get older. I was very surprised to see that this one garnered only a PG rating rather than a PG-13 rating (HP5 was PG-13). What worries me about this is that parents who do not check things out ahead of time think, oh, OK it is only PG...there was one point where I leapt out of my seat and yelped because I got scared and that is with reading the books.

I think parents need to make informed decisions that are best for their kids. For mine? My oldest is 9...it will be a while...

Tracy said...

We have allowed our three oldest to read the books (the two oldest are the only ones who have) and they have also seen the movies but.. they are by no means obsessed with Harry Potter at all, they enjoyed the books and the movies but they all have said one read was plenty and they only felt the need to see the movies once as well, thankfully my kids don't tend to get obsessed over fiction and if they did.. I as the parent would be putting a stop to it:) But, I have watched the media hype surrounding these books/films and I think that with some it is indeed a problem, they take it way too serious and can't leave it as what it is "fiction" and that is very sad.

Suzanne said...

Shane is presently at the theater at this moment watching the new HP movie. I will be going in a week or so again with him, most likely..he'll enjoy it again..free when Crista will then be able to get us free passes. I went through so much about these books. I too bought Carpenter-Brown's book for our family for reference. She is who helped me to realize that talk had really gotten out of hand about all of this. I was having to say no to everything and still seem to have to about all of the movies with pre-marital sex. This is fiction and just something fun and it has not been one of our main problems in life..other things have been, but not really HP. HP actually helped Shane to learned to read better and pay attention and comprehend better. I thank the author for this also. :)

Suzie L. said...

You are right, IMHO. My kids were also young when HP first came out, so we haven't been affected, nor have we indulged in the books/movies. I really felt like there were so many other good book series already available ... Redwall is one. We've also read through the entire Wizard of Oz series, of which some may not approve (the movie is nothing like the books ... my hubbie & I were not prepared for that ... the books are better).

I'm not sure if or when we'd introduce HP. I think it will somewhat depend upon the maturity of the reader and their ability to discern and interpret; parental guidance is a must before/after reading most modern contemporary children's/young reader books.

What bothers me most when I go into a B&N is the amount of dark reading material available in the youth section. A lot of it is dragons, wizards, witches, magic, etc. That is what is shown on the covers of the prominently displayed books. The classics aren't displayed the same way and there seems to be such an interest in 'series' books ... must be a marketing ploy??

Sarah - Kala said...

Suzie - I agree that the marketing is very thick and widely available on other books that are HP-like that may or may not be darker (probably not as well written, IMHO). I think I got my girl the first Redwall book . . . she hasn't read it yet . . . I'll have to when we finally unpack. I keep hearing it's a good series and I used it as a way to get her to read something else. But what she started reading was Narnia, then the Wrinkle In Time books, and then the Last Olympian series. She still likes HP, but she's not as crazy as she was after our chat. I just purchased The Odyssey for her (Homer), which may be a little hard for her, but she can try. I got myself the Hitchhikers series in one book and she read the first story. I remember enjoying those when I was in middle school. She hasn't read her copy of Pride and Prejudice yet, but every time we walk past an Austin book she says something about wanting to read the stories. Let us hope she does!

Christine said...

Oh I have been away too long and missed this great debate? over here!

The kids and I haven't even seen High School Musical yet.

Just not into all that stuff. My oldest is 13 so I am still waiting it out for awhile.

You are right about knowing what is best for your own kids. A lot of people think I am a looney for having 4 and staying home plus being Catholic YIKES!

I do not like the witchcraft stuff at all. And not having read any of the books yet I just cannot fully comment on it.

However, I know a lot of people that say NONONONO to HP because of that one fact.

Sarah - Kala said...

Kissteen, I know folks who avoid it when their kids ask just because it's being made such a big deal of and the only decision they want to make is to say NO and not get involved. I'm okay with that, too. It's easy for me to decide 'cos I love to read so if I have to read something before my kids, I'm so all over it. Harder for others (time, especially, and I understand that). If your kids aren't asking, don't bother with it just because it's the "in" thing. My girl asked to see many films I've said no to. HSMusical as well. Why? Awful admission ahead: I don't like musicals. Oy! I know! I can't get out of my head that suddenly in the middle of life going on, everyone is on queue and no missteps singing and dancing about something. It's hilarious to me.

I am not a person who chases after fads . . . usually when something is talked up to death, I avoid it. I read HP when it first came out before it was a big deal. Fever pitch is something I like to avoid. Just because they are good stories (and well written) and extremely popular, does not mean you have to read them. Or go see their movie counterparts. BTW, the film was good (the recent one) but it's visuals even bothered me. I was still able to sleep last night, because . . . I have seen worse in real life. Maybe I'll put it out there one day, but for now, let us just say that powers and principalities are real. Angels and demons? Yup. Very real. Maybe we should blog on that topic, yeah?

Anonymous said...

Great post.

I feel the same way... I don't care if anyone else chooses to allow or forbid HP, but it bugs the snot outta me when I detect that judgmental attitude and tone from others because we are fans. My kids do not read and reread the books (I am guilty of that, though I don't feel obsessed. I usually go back to pick things apart after a movie!)

As far as Dumbledore being gay... I may be wrong, but I've felt from the the beginning that this was an afterthought. I don't believe for a moment that she had that in mind as she wrote. I really don't. As far as I can see, being a single male is the only "evidence" of this... and that, then, indicts Snape, Hagrid, Sirius, Moody... etc. I think it was a PC afterthought. Really. My kids haven't heard this and since it isn't really IN the books, I'm not too worried about it.

Thanks for commenting on my spoiler page!

JennB said...

I totally agree with your feelings/reasoning behind permitting or not permitting your kids to be exposed to... whatever it may be!

Not being cowed by the opinions of others and making your own informed decision as a parent is exactly the task God has given us.

You go, girl!