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Wednesday, January 7, 2009

Prayerfully Consider This . . .

Please pass this message on by sending a Chapel Veil Campaign link to friends and family...http://catholicknight.blogspot.com/2007/12/chapel-veil-campaign.html


I voted and I voted to wear one. If we are really going to be going back in time - to traditions that actually began before Christ, I won't argue it. I welcome it.

I'm currently in the market to buy a chapel veil. Any suggestions where to buy from, my dear readers?

16 comments:

Jamie Jo said...

OH, gosh, I could say so much here....about 13 years ago I really debated and prayed about whether to veil or not to. I feel it is a decision that once I'd do it, it would have to be done ALL the time otherwise it wouldn't be for the right reasons.

I have nothing against people who do it, I think it's up to them. I DO feel I can be/dress modestly and not cover my head though. I feel it would draw too much attention to myself, too much negative attention. Now, If we went to a Latin Mass every Sunday, maybe it would be more appropriate, but even to decide to wear it there, I would have to always wear it because it is to cover our heads before God, right? So I'd have to do it at every Mass I'd go to.

I think I would be so self conscience and it would bother me too much to wear it, I get so hot as it is and I would just fidget too much and it would take away from the purpose of wearing it.

Plus, with all my littles, the current littlest little, likes to play with my hair, and often lifts both sides up and I am constantly saying no...I could just imagine her pulling it off constantly.

SO, for me, I vote no and am traditional with a little liberal in me I guess (dare I say that) because I do like some aspects of the new Mass.

BUT, I am in no way saying no to veils completely, I think if you do it, I'm sure you've given it careful thought and it's what you feel called to do. I think it's ok for others, just not me for now.

Great post, I hope I didn't make it into a debate!

Sarah - Kala said...

Jamie - you are definitely thinking it through, though, and that counts for something. Here's my thinking: if indeed in 2010 the Mass has changed and if indeed Rome states head covering has not ever changed (America or not), I think it's okay. Better than okay. As with anything, though, time is the healer - smooth one's way into it. That's me. I like to go slow . . . which is why I'm taking my time on buying a veil.

Sarah - Kala said...

Let me correct myself. The Mass has never changed. The vernacular did - so when the American church brings the English back to the clearer and more precise Latin meaning . . . then, I will procede so to speak.

Allison said...

3-4 years ago I read a lot on this issue and felt convicted that I could go outside myself more in reverence and humility to Our Lord.

Jamie, I too felt it was uncomfortable, in attention, at first but we are called to be a light to others and we are not called to be comfortable either.

Don't you love seeing a priest or nun in their religious garb? Doesn't it immediately bring your thoughts to God? I felt the same way seeing women in their veils...and of course, men with their hats OFF (as St. Paul also admonishes) in church.

It was a struggle, and I still feel more counter-cultural in a Novus Ordo mass wearing one. It is easier in a Latin Mass. However, dying to self always is hard. I have linked to this veil campaign and shared more links supporting this devotion.

Thank you for stepping out into an unknown Sarah, God will be generous 100 fold, as He promises.

This is the year of St. Paul...
1Corinthians 11:1-16... and I believe he was Divinely inpsired. It was not wrong then...so why not continue? St. Paul, pray for us.

Maurisa said...

Sarah,

Found a resource for you from a good family friend who is also a blogger. Her family attends a Traditional Latin Mass in DC, where most women do veil. I'm pasting in a link for you here: http://schamelot.blogspot.com/2007/08/to-veil-or-not-to-veil.html

If you scroll down you'll find resources for making or purchasing veils.

This is something I've mulled over the years but have yet to take the veiling plunge, so to speak.

Oh, my friend will very often wear a cute straw hat instead of a veil, which I believe is also appropriate and may not attract unwanted attention.

Sarah - Kala said...

JMJ - thanks for encouraging me.

Mau - thanks for the linkyloo. I read it and I'm even more convinced this is the way to go. You know when you get the knowing twinge or tickle or prick in your guts? That's exactly what I get when I read about veiling.

Anonymous said...

Know what? I have a veil and sometimes I wear it and sometimes I don't.
Sometimes I dress up and sometimes I don't.
Sometimes I pray well and sometimes I don't.
Sometimes I feel close to God and sometimes I don't.
If the Church says we HAVE to cover our heads, I will always cover my head.
As long as it's up to me personally, I will do as I feel the morning I am getting ready for Mass.
Sometimes the decision comes down to whether or not I feel like covering my bad hair day - or whether or not I want to cover a GOOD hair day! Sometimes it's because I want to be as reverent as I possibly can.
And you know what?
God loves me regardless of what I decide.
And He knows my heart.
And I don't give a rat's ass if people "see me" with it on one Sunday and without it the next.
If it's distracting ANYONE either way - they'd be distracted just as easily with ANYTHING I'm wearing, regardless.
Just like me - I'll look some days at what other people are wearing - and other days I keep my eyes to myself.

It's called being human.

And God knows I am!

I vote to have them though!

Gramma 2 Many said...

It would be easily made. It is just a triangle of lace edged with flat lace. Very simple to do. When I was young we called them Mantilla's. Not sure of the spelling though.

Suzanne said...

I wish we all wore one...sure would be alot easier! :) Were we "TOLD"
by the Vatican that we all had to wear them before...Lord, I don't know how that all came about to begin with. I hated the little round things that they used years ago and always wanted to have the pretty flowing one when I would grow up and buy my own..then, they stopped. I don't know..I agree with alot of you and I think Alexa has a point and whatever one decides to do, it must be from the heart and not to prove some point to others. I remember when our one priest suggested we stand during the Eucharistic part Mass...like heck..that did not last long for me and a few others. We were down on our knees and he didn't like it one bit and I just didn't care. To me, that is more important to work on, but I do see the reasoning behind this also. We'll see what happens, but its growing ladies..its growing. :)
Suz

Sarah - Kala said...

Please do not think that I am doing this to prove any points to anyone. I am doing this because I am called by God to do so. There is a big difference in the way I see and experience God working through me. I do not believe in forcing anyone's will - and by the way, neither does He. God prefers obedience to sacrifice. I will answer honestly, however, if anyone asks me why I wear it: Since Rome never rid of this 2,000 plus year old tradition, nor will I now that I am perfectly aware of it. I cannot, myself, abide in disobedience. It's a humbling process - and it does make me uncomfortable - but I'd rather wear a veil two hours on a Sunday (plus when at Holy Hour) than a hairshirt. Thank God those aren't a required tradition!

regan said...

we've "veiled" for many years now. (1 cor. 11:5-7) is a good place to start for those considering it. for myself, the fact that i hated fooling around with something that constantly slips off my head, whether from little hands tugging or just because of the shape of my head,then there is the itchiness and bothersome factor....i could go on and on, but perhaps BECAUSE it is so inconvenient, made me realize that, YES, i should be wearing one every week, regardless of what mass we attend. and let me tell you-we've had the funny uncomfortable stares. one family literally stared at us the WHOLE time during a novus ordo mass we attended some years ago-it was very uncomfortable, but i figure, the blessed Mother covered her head, so.........

Suzanne said...

Sarah,
I didn't mean to imply that any of you ladies were doing wearing a veil or anything else such as receiving the Eucharist on the tongue for anything but the best reasons. What I meant, was for MYSELF in the respect of that I need to decide to do any of these things because I feel it in my own personal heart strongly. I hope I clarify this because sometimes I receive on the tongue and sometimes I do not. When I first began to do it again, I was fixated on it too much..you know little like a Pharasiee..did I spell that right...anyway, maybe that makes sense. I feel it almost has to be a spontaneous effort and like someone else says...making up my heart that this is the way it will be for good. I don't think there is one woman on here that isn't sincere as all get out! :)

Mimi said...

I sometimes wear my grandmother's mantilla, and I love the fact that I know she's with me in that way at Liturgy (even though she was Cahtolic and I'm Orthodox). I've gotten mantillas on Ebay before.

Having said that, if you are buying new, I cannot rave enough about HaloWorks, they are traditionalist Catholic.
http://www.halo-works.com/

I also mostly just wear a scarf.

Sarah - Kala said...

Suz - this is one of the reasons why I LOVE YOU, because you do come back and revist comments and make sure everything is clear. And, I think we all could agree you weren't implying anything negative. We all have to figure this out - LOVINGLY amongst each other.

Mimi - that's the webstore I keep going to so I thank you for the thumbs up!! Hugs!!

Kalona said...

Sarah, you might look in your local Catholic bookstores, too. That's where I got mantillas for myself and my mom.

We attend the TLM, and most women do cover their heads for Mass (although some do not). Father does speak about it now and then, and about dressing modestly and nicely for Mass. There are chapel veils in the back for anyone who doesn't have one to borrow.

What I have discovered since I started wearing a veil is that I can't imagine not covering my head before the tabernacle now. So even if I go to a NO Mass, I wear either a hat or a mantilla. A scarf would work well, too.

Mom and I go to Adoration once a week, and we've gotten a few funny looks, but it doesn't bother me. I have to laugh at myself now, because when I first came into the Church and saw a couple of ladies wearing mantillas, I thought they were being "overzealous" or wanting attention. Now I know better. :o)

Melissa @ Homegrown Catholics said...

Thank you for posting this discussion. I personally will not wear any headcoverings, and am posting a discussion on my Growing in Grace blog. Based on my studies, it is a personal choice and no longer enforced by the Catholic Church. But I certainly do not oppose anyone who wishes to wear one - if it helps them feel more presentable.